Just another day in paradise....

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madturkishcow said:
How many of you remember the Phil Collins hit, ‘Just another day in Paradise?' The line ‘Oh Saturday night' and I am checking what is on TV, a decent book to read or whenever my Internet connection is up and running. Yes, I like to wiggle and shimmy, have a few drinks and let my hair down, meet up with friends and have a good gossip and all things normal people do to relax at the weekend.

Unfortunately, Hisaronu and to an extent Ovacik has been overtaken by mindless Brits who have one thing in common and that is to show the Turkish people what a bunch of, ill-mannered, crass idiots we have become. I have no problem with those who have a few drinks and good naturedly banter and joke with the Turks, or those that are obviously the worse for wear and can be seen attempting to stand horizontal, whilst the friend, partner, wife propels them in the direction of home. Hey, they are on holiday.

My problem is with those that descend on a bar or club, shout because they think the Turks cannot understand them (not surprising with the amount of booze they put away) and draw attention to themselves, as only the Brits can. It is a disease that is virulent; affecting not just the younger generation but all sexes and ages.

With the male, the symptoms begin with wearing shorts, trainers and nothing else. A shaven head and numerous tattoos normally appear at the onset. This is accompanied by a usually hairy beer belly (8-9 months pregnant size). Female symptoms are even easier to spot and a lobster red skin, longish bleached blonde hair, the contents of Selfridges Max Factor slap counter, a piece of material (known amongst the younger generation as a top) which is worn somewhere in the middle of the body, allowing the breasts to take someone's eye out and a matching belt. 3-4 inch heels on which one can totter completes the symptoms.

With this disease, the voice raises a few hundred decibels, the language spews out as gutter or just profanity and the sufferer has delusions that they are important. One sad and regretful symptom is that a kiddie or two are usually included in the group.
It is not Saturday night in Paradise; in fact no night now is Paradise. I cringe when I see them coming, avoid my favourite haunts in season and sadly admit that I do not admit ever, to being British. Yes, if you are here on holiday please let your hair down, after all you have more than likely worked hard all year to afford your precious two weeks, but please avoid catching the disease. I am British, live here all year round and know a lot of Turkish people very well. I go out of my way to show them that apart from my place of birth, I am no different to them. Sadly whilst the Turks are very patriotic and moralistic Britain as a nation seems hell bent on enforcing the idea that we are all are mindless morons.


This may have been written a while ago but at this moment you have made me laugh so much I have to clean up the wine I have just coughed up all over the keyboard!!!! It's just so so true :lol: :lol:

When I'm on holiday I like a drink but there is a limit when the kids are with us, one of the best things about going on holiday is you can take your kids with you. I, like you have noticed that some people seem to spoil it by acting like morons, and I often feel ashamed in case I am 'judged' to be the same. From now on I'll just refer to those, which of course moi is not the same as, as - the 'diseased' with symptoms that need treating by others not known to Turkish law :lol: :lol: i.e. how the hell would they know how to - we don't as it doesn't happen over here (with kids in tow I mean)
 
#22
i remember hisaronu a few years ago when it was just a hiccup on the way from Fethiye to olu deniz..we've had some super breakfasts there..i can't believe it could have changed so much...
at least Alanya hasn't been over run (by brits)in season like hisaronu and marmaris...although yusufs bro says the brits in marmaris are more entertaining than a problem..he's a traffic cop there and used to the place...the turks mostly turn a blind eye to bad behaviour..its us that feel ashamed of our countrymen. but hey..like a family we usually get over it..til the next time...
hic hic.. been on the vodka..cos the bro's here and he likes a drop..have a nice time all of you
 

cirali

Senior Member
#23
Hi all,

Madturkishcow and everybody very informative post. Great reading. Now this is just my opinion and I am sure that a few might not agree with me but I feel that the tourists in Turkey have changed with the introduction of the AI holidays. Does anyone else have the same opinion??

Now I also agree that is you are on holidays to have a great time and enjoy yourself but there are limits. I am sadded when I have read posts on other forums about young girls asking about the drinking ages in bars. Or dancing on the tables flaunting themselves. One has to have respect for themselves.

Turkey is a country full of history and culture and that is why ( I feel ) one should travel and experience the full beauty of this country. Turkey is not just sun, sand, bars, and food it is rich in culture.
 

madturkishcow

LİVİNG İN PARADİSE
#24
Hi Cirali :lol:
I assume you mean All İnclusive and not the A1m.......The Aİ has changed the tourist scene to the extent that these people spend two weeks at their chosen resort, very rarely leave the secure compounds and do not see Turkiye at all. There was an article two years ago on the effects on Aİ holidays on local tourisim, which were and are still suffering.
I personally think the 'Rocky Road' started ten years ago when the 'Brits' suddenly discovered that they could purchase a cheap property (they were then!) in the sun,not pay out for a hotel and had plenty of money to 'Enjoy' themselves.
Hisarönü has slowly been going downhill over the years since it was a hiccup on the map. One reason could be that the generation of youngsters now have their own money, go on holiday without the parents or if they are with parents, they don't give a flying what their 'Kylie or Jason' are up to. There is a lack of respect across the board as seen by the state of the UK and no-one takes responsibilty for their actions anymore. It is not just the youngsters however and I have seen many cases of people in their 50's and 60's behaving like pratts. :27:
Hisarönü was my stomping ground along with Ovacik and for six years Ölü. I moved away last summer and this was partly the reason. The other being that the 'Brits' have pushed the prices up so much that it is no longer viable to live there. I do go back to see my friends but not that often. I hate what has happened to Hisaönü which has been helped and abetted by the local Mayor (who just so happens to be the biggest land owner and has a finger in every pie) even his election was a total farce with so many kurdish votes..... :kafa:
No, Cirali I do not think the All İnclusive is to blame at all. Personally, it is the 'Brits' and their disease which is to blame...

mkc
 

cirali

Senior Member
#25
I assume you mean All İnclusive and not the A1m.......The Aİ has changed the tourist scene to the extent that these people spend two weeks at their chosen resort, very rarely leave the secure compounds and do not see Turkiye at all. There was an article two years ago on the effects on Aİ holidays on local tourisim, which were and are still suffering.
I personally think the 'Rocky Road' started ten years ago when the 'Brits' suddenly discovered that they could purchase a cheap property (they were then!) in the sun,not pay out for a hotel and had plenty of money to 'Enjoy' themselves.
Hisarönü has slowly been going downhill over the years since it was a hiccup on the map. One reason could be that the generation of youngsters now have their own money, go on holiday without the parents or if they are with parents, they don't give a flying what their 'Kylie or Jason' are up to. There is a lack of respect across the board as seen by the state of the UK and no-one takes responsibilty for their actions anymore. It is not just the youngsters however and I have seen many cases of people in their 50's and 60's behaving like pratts.
Thanks Madturkish cow,

Yes I of course meant the all inclusive package holidays. Well said and that is my point they do not see the real Turkey just the inside of fancy complex's. It's too bad that many places have changed. We drove by Hisarönü about 4 years ago in the winter months and all I could see was bars and bars. But at that time everything was closed and empty. I feel sorry for the kids when mom and dad do not seem to care.

As for myself we do not get a lot of brits into Cirali but I do see many of those types of holiday makers of every nationality on their jeep safari tours out of either Antalya, Kemer or Tekirova. Actually Cirali is a place that is too quite for thes types of tourists.

Over this past summer I have met many lovely brits like everybody here on the forum. They, like yourself love the REAL Turkey, but I have seen that type in places like Marmaris.

Anyways great post and loved your ideas!!!!
 
#26
the first time i came to turkey was to Bodrum with my daughter..it was 1990.and there was hardly any brits there...but nights were crazy with kids dancing on window ledges..tables.. anywhere ..the place was buzzing..and guess what..they were all turkish kids...but they weren't drunk..just uninhibited.. and having a great time.
the same holds true in Alanya in the summer..there's loads of Turks from istanbul that holiday here..the kids have a great time..without showing themselves up...
there is a culture among british kids ..and some adults..that the drunker they are the better the time they are having....afraid to let themselves go without the prop of alcohol...doesnt prop them up for long though.
 
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